make solo intrument into section?

[Paul Battersby]

I thought I saw in here a discussion about how some piece of software was able to take a single solo instrument, perform some processing (detune it, change the timing, EQ etc) and make it sound like an entire section. For example, taking a solo violin sample and making it sound like maybe 3-5 violins playing together as a section.

Anyone know anything about that or have any advice on how to manually achieve that?

[StevenT2112]

I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but there's a Kontakt script that can do something like this.

Look for ScoringFilm's post. You also have to be signed up to VI control to download it.
http://vi-control.net/community/threads/...808/page-2

[Paul Battersby]

(07-06-2016, 11:51 PM)StevenT2112 Wrote: I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but there's a Kontakt script that can do something like this.

Yes and no.

It's exactly the post I was remembering. Thank you. I don't recall how I originally found it. I thought there was a link to it in a post here somewhere.

Unfortunately it's a Kontakt script. I didn't realize that the first time around. I don't have Kontakt.  

(07-06-2016, 11:51 PM)StevenT2112 Wrote: Look for ScoringFilm's post. You also have to be signed up to VI control to download it.

I just registered. Now waiting for it to be approved. Maybe looking at the script source code will give me some ideas.

[kmlandre]

What plugin are you working from?  There's a few different tricks you can use...

-- Kurt

[Mattias Westlund]

If you have a chromatically sampled instrument, like for example ldk1609's violin, you can create three separate violins by mapping the samples in minor thirds and starting on different notes. i.e:

Violin 1: G, A#, C#, E
Violin 2: G#, B, D, F
Violin 3: A, C, D#, F#

You can even make that four or more instruments depending on how well the samples take to being streched over wider intervals.

Only downside of this approach when it comes to string instruments is that you may end up having vibrato on the lowest note, which is of course impossible on an open string.

[Mattias Westlund]

As for detuning, changing offset/attack times etc, this yields a synthier and more obviously artificial sound in my experience.

[Mattias Westlund]

Paul: here's an example of the above approach.

[Paul Battersby]

(07-07-2016, 04:34 AM)kmlandre Wrote: What plugin are you working from?  There's a few different tricks you can use...

I'm using the sforzando sfz player.

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(07-07-2016, 09:39 AM)Mattias Westlund Wrote: If you have a chromatically sampled instrument, like for example ldk1609's violin, you can create three separate violins by mapping the samples in minor thirds and starting on different notes. i.e:

Violin 1: G, A#, C#, E
Violin 2: G#, B, D, F
Violin 3: A, C, D#, F#

So far, I'm interested in making

• VSCO2 Woodwinds/Oboe/Stacc
  

sound like 3 oboes. It's samples are:

A#2, D3, F3, A#3, D4, F4, A#4 etc.

Doesn't look like remapping is an option there.

and I also want to make

• VSCO2 Woodwinds/Flute/Stacc
  

sound like 3 flutes but it's samples are:

A3, C4, E4, A4, C5, E5 etc.

(07-07-2016, 09:39 AM)Mattias Westlund Wrote: Only downside of this approach when it comes to string instruments is that you may end up having vibrato on the lowest note, which is of course impossible on an open string.

Good point. I hadn't thought of that.

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(07-07-2016, 10:17 AM)Mattias Westlund Wrote: Paul: here's an example of the above approach.

That sounds good to me. I can see the remapping in the .sfz file. I also see you used the "position" opcode. Something else important I hadn't considered.

[Mattias Westlund]

(07-07-2016, 11:45 AM)pbattersby Wrote: A#2, D3, F3, A#3, D4, F4, A#4 etc.

Doesn't look like remapping is an option there.

Nope, not likely.

Hm, if extreme realism is not a concern I guess you could try something like Acon Digital Multiply or Valhalla SpaceModulator to create an ensemble effect?

[Mattias Westlund]

Unless there's some particular reason that you want to use VSCO2 only and no other samples, you could try this. Solo oboe from the MIS samples (2012 version) mapped as two instruments and truncated to sound like staccatos. Not very convincing on their own but layered with the VSCO oboe it kinda works.