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RE: UDemy tries to teach bigcat - bigcat1969 - 07-11-2017

OK a vastly different character theme...

https://soundcloud.com/joe-stevens-16/meadows-dance


RE: UDemy tries to teach bigcat - Otto Halmén - 07-11-2017

bigcat, I think the most important thing you should do at this point is just write. Write anything that comes to mind, and write a lot. Try any musical idea you find even slightly interesting, and don't worry too much about style or substance yet. Once you know you can write, you can start thinking about what you want to write. Smile

Your efforts made me think about what it was like when I first started out. I remember writing dozens upon dozens of short bits and pieces that didn't end up anywhere. I've met others with similar experiences, so I'm pretty sure there's something to the idea of just writing a lot without restriction for the sake of learning. Smile


RE: UDemy tries to teach bigcat - bigcat1969 - 07-11-2017

Thanks Otto. That makes sense. If can write anything with a modicum of melody and rhythm I'm pretty happy at this point. hopefully that will change eventually and with all the good advice here.


RE: UDemy tries to teach bigcat - Mattias Westlund - 07-11-2017

(07-11-2017, 09:34 PM)Otto Halmén Wrote: bigcat, I think the most important thing you should do at this point is just write. Write anything that comes to mind, and write a lot. Try any musical idea you find even slightly interesting, and don't worry too much about style or substance yet. Once you know you can write, you can start thinking about what you want to write. Smile

<<- Yes, this. So much this.

These days I think there's faaar too much focus on "how" to play this instrument or that, or "how" to arrange for orchestra or whatever, or "how" to be a golden-eared sound engineer. And so on and so forth. Like there's only one single magic way of doing it. When it comes down to the line though, it's not about any of that. It's about having an interest in music and being able to pinpoint what you like about existing music and then cherry picking the (in your opinion) best bits and making them your own. There's no formula, there's no right or wrong. Listen to something that gives you a musical boner, then figure it out. WHY does this make me feel this way? HOW does it make me feel this way? CAN I borrow something from this to make music that possibly makes other people feel the same way?


RE: UDemy tries to teach bigcat - Samulis - 07-11-2017

"Listen to something that gives you a musical boner, then figure it out. WHY does this make me feel this way? HOW does it make me feel this way? CAN I borrow something from this to make music that possibly makes other people feel the same way?" - Mattias Westlund, 2017

Hitting the err... nail on the... err... head. Big Grin

I agree. It's great to learn efficient procedures and techniques, but also important to 'just do it!' Just like Otto said, I wrote craploads of music when I started- some very bad, some shockingly passable- although it wasn't until I met my first hard critics (who are now two of my closest musical friends) that I started gaining traction. Now that I know a modicum about composition, I find it much harder to write as much (a bit of a warning from someone down the road). Never let your eagerness to write be stopped by eagerness to comply with standards or formulas. If you have a chord progression first then a melody, do it. If you have a melody then instrumentation then harmony, do it.

I took a class on coding that was sort of like "now let's throw you in the deep end- if you REALLY get stuck, we can help, but here are the tools you need- go ahead!" but then after each project, we would have a 'post-mortem' on what we liked, what we didn't like, and where we could go from there. That's the direction I go when judging/critiquing pieces, and I apply this to my own music and I find it helpful.


RE: UDemy tries to teach bigcat - bigcat1969 - 07-12-2017

Good advice guys thanks. Listen and write and try to get the basics.
When I started for a weird set of reasons messing with VSTis, I had no ear whatsoever. Now I'm actually starting to hear things. Multi instruments in an orchestra. Sometimes harmony as well as melody. A bit of it is clicking. So all of it together, taking music appreciation / composing classes, trying to write, your advice, just listening is helping. So thanks and thanks for your patience. Lol especially you Sam, what a guy to create a VSTi / Kontakt version of your baby eh? Wink


RE: UDemy tries to teach bigcat - bigcat1969 - 07-13-2017

A little fragment of an idea on two brass type instruments...
https://soundcloud.com/joe-stevens-16/at-the-park


RE: UDemy tries to teach bigcat - bigcat1969 - 07-15-2017

My most ambitious attempt at a character theme for my Udemy class. Since the instructor said 2 to 3 instruments and I used a good chunk of a string section I might have gone overboard a bit. Extra Credit!
This was an attempt to use harmony and also a little bit of mastering with EQ and compression.
I think it might have too much repetition? I tried to use some variance in instrument, pitch and speed to change things up a bit. Also I'm not sure A and B quite go together and I sort of reversed A so it could loop. I was trying to give the impression of the rogue going to steal (A), tiptoeing in and stealing (B) and the going on her merry way (Reverse A).

https://soundcloud.com/joe-stevens-16/charismatic-rogue


RE: UDemy tries to teach bigcat - bigcat1969 - 07-24-2017

OK back to more normal RPG music, I hope. I think this might work for resting and chatting around a campfire on a lazy night.

https://soundcloud.com/joe-stevens-16/companions


RE: UDemy tries to teach bigcat - Samulis - 07-24-2017

Really nice piece, BC! It reminds me a lot of early American music. It has a nice raw characteristic to it and the chord motions.