(01-03-2017, 01:34 AM)Mattias Westlund Wrote: Maybe we should approach a desperate sample developer (like, obviously, Sonivox) about doing a crowdfunding campaign to release their libs into the public domain, or at least under some non-copyrighted license?

I mean, if they're willing to sell their stuff for $1...

(01-03-2017, 04:14 AM)Michael Willis Wrote: I can't tell if you're joking, but seriously, you might be on to something... I would pitch in some money, and to spread the word we could just start here and have people reach out to other forums and communities with a link to the crowd fund campaign.

(01-03-2017, 01:21 PM)Mattias Westlund Wrote: I was actually being serious. Though how successful such a venture might be I have no idea.

(12-30-2016, 05:38 PM)Mattias Westlund Wrote: I've finally had some time to experiment more with the Sonivox Orchestral Companion libs that I've gotten my mitts on lately, i.e. Strings, Brass and Woodwinds.

And what can I say. I love the sound of these samples (YMMV of course, as I have a weird fetish for older orchestral libs, and I have some experience with Sonivox's stuff from the M-Audio-branded ProSessions discs from years ago) and it's simply a damn shame that the player frontend is such a clunky, buggy mess. I mean what the hell were they thinking?

• It has no disk streaming, which forces me to use up almost half of my 16GB of RAM for just loading all the basic sections. I'm guessing that if I added all solo instruments as well, I'd have no RAM left for loading anything else. But who needs percussion, harp, piano, choirs and stuff anyway, right?
  
• The plugins are monotimbral, so you'll need a separate instance for every section and instrument.
  
• There's an awful lot of unsightly clicking and crackling going on, for no apparent reason.
  
• The velocity response feels off and there's no way to adjust it from within the plugins.
  
• The Transpose knob doesn't actually transpose -- it pitch shifts the patches!
  
• The keyswitches are fixed at the -1 octave and can't be edited, which means you'll need an 88 key controller (if even that helps) to be able to switch articulations while playing in the high register.
  
• The release tails can't be switched off.
  
• It has synth features like amp, pitch and filter LFO's and a built in delay and chorus -- but no potentially useful synth features like pitch envelope, legato mode and glide.
  

And... probably more. Just thinking of all these problems makes me sad so I'll stop there.

This is some really pathetic stuff. The samples sound great but the way they're packaged just makes the whole suite borderline useless for anyone except maybe people looking for a quick "orchestra synth" type of instrument for their pop songs. Which is really too bad, as this could have been a great collection of affordable orchestral VI's.

Up until now I was considering ripping the notes manually from the scrambled plugins (strings & winds) but I honestly don't know if it's worth the trouble even trying. With all the crackling going on it's likely a lost cause. I'm going to cut my losses and just map what I might need from the brass as SFZ and/or TX and then wash my hands of this mess.

(01-09-2017, 02:20 PM)goldglob Wrote: when I move the (working) mod wheel...I can't see the vol knob or any other parameters moving..what would be changing here? Is the mod wheel changing velocity..or is it internally changing the vol but without moving the knob?

(01-11-2017, 01:32 AM)Nayrb Wrote:

(01-09-2017, 02:20 PM)goldglob Wrote: when I move the (working) mod wheel...I can't see the vol knob or any other parameters moving..what would be changing here? Is the mod wheel changing velocity..or is it internally changing the vol but without moving the knob?

Greets goldglob!

The dynamics (modwheel) parameter crossfades between the velocity layers, nothing is happening to the master volume. So you're right, it's changing velocity. Or it would be if the Orchestral Companion stuff actually functioned!

(01-11-2017, 04:14 AM)goldglob Wrote: Would there be a way to assign my mod wheel to cc11? I'm just stabbing in the dark here...I'm not really familiar with all this.

(01-11-2017, 06:43 PM)Mattias Westlund Wrote:

(01-11-2017, 04:14 AM)goldglob Wrote: Would there be a way to assign my mod wheel to cc11? I'm just stabbing in the dark here...I'm not really familiar with all this.

There's a couple of ways if the plugin itself won't let you do it.

1) Consult your midi controller manual, sometimes you can easily remap hardware functions.

2) Use a midi plugin that translates between midi CC# messages. IIRC pizmidi has one.

It might even be possible that your DAW lets you do thise natively, I seem to remember that Cubase has some such function. It's been years though so I can't be any more specific than that.