(01-09-2019, 11:56 AM)Paul Battersby Wrote: [ -> ]That is a known problem with LinuxSampler.... I asked if someone could try using CC7 (for volume) and the MOD wheel (for crossfade) together to see if that would work but no one responded.
I tried it tonight, using the cross-faded trumpet sfz and automating both the mod and volume controllers. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work on LinuxSampler; the trumpet track came out very quiet. The ups and downs in the volume controller did seem to influence the sound somewhat, but I didn't hear any crossfading.
I don't think you should put any time into trying to fix this, clearly it is just a lack of proper support in LinuxSampler.
(01-11-2019, 05:10 AM)Michael Willis Wrote: [ -> ]I tried it tonight, using the cross-faded trumpet sfz and automating both the mod and volume controllers. Unfortunately it doesn't seem to work on LinuxSampler;
If you want to try one more experiment, edit the "
trumpet-SEC-sustain-DXF.sfz" file and change this:
gain_cc1=24
to this
gain_cc7=24
See if that helps (this will need to be changed in 2 places).
(01-11-2019, 12:27 PM)Paul Battersby Wrote: [ -> ]If you want to try one more experiment, edit the "trumpet-SEC-sustain-DXF.sfz" file and change this:
gain_cc1=24
to this
gain_cc7=24
See if that helps (this will need to be changed in 2 places).
I still don't hear any cross fade. I tried to do a simple test with a chord, starting both mod and cc7 around 50, quickly dropping both to around 15, and then gradually increasing both to the maximum 127. I did get the volume increase, but no sample crossfade.
I also tried commenting out the following, in the event that it might be conflicting with the crossfade, but it didn't help:
Code:
// mod wheel slows attack (PB)
// ampeg_attackcc1=0.5
(01-13-2019, 12:01 AM)Michael Willis Wrote: [ -> ]I still don't hear any cross fade. I tried to do a simple test with a chord, starting both mod and cc7 around 50, quickly dropping both to around 15, and then gradually increasing both to the maximum 127. I did get the volume increase, but no sample crossfade.
Seems like it's a deeper problem than I thought. Without having Linux and Linux Sampler myself, seems unlikely I'll figure out the problem unfortunately.
(01-13-2019, 01:18 AM)Paul Battersby Wrote: [ -> ]Seems like it's a deeper problem than I thought. Without having Linux and Linux Sampler myself, seems unlikely I'll figure out the problem unfortunately.
Yes, that's fine. You have done plenty already. If I
really want crossfaded dynamics, I'll have to figure out a way to do it.
New rough draft:
https://soundcloud.com/user-201997735/to...ough-draft
Per everybody's advice, I evened out the levels, adjusted the reverb to be "more mountainous", and did some automation of the dynamics. I still don't have a working cross-fade, but I might have a solution for that in the near future.
I also arranged about 50 seconds more material with high strings, glockenspiel, and woodwinds. The new part still needs some smoothing out; I'm sharing it in the interest of getting early feedback.
I moved the earlier draft here in case anybody wants a before/after comparison:
https://instaud.io/3fuO
I think it's really nice now! Is this your Dragonfly Reverb? I find the second part fitting to the atmosphere, however I totally missed the woodwinds! I hope you have luck with the xfades because it really boost the end result. Until then maybe you could experiment with some panning?
(02-01-2019, 04:42 PM)Chris Spyratos Wrote: [ -> ]I think it's really nice now!
Thanks!
(02-01-2019, 04:42 PM)Chris Spyratos Wrote: [ -> ]Is this your Dragonfly Reverb?
Yes. I have three instances set up following the principles from
Mattias' reverb articles. I was actually already using it, but after your suggestion of a "mountainous reverb", I decided to really exaggerate the room size and decay time, and increased the reverb sends by about 6 dB each.
(02-01-2019, 04:42 PM)Chris Spyratos Wrote: [ -> ]I totally missed the woodwinds!
Right now it just has a solo flute doubling the melody of the glockenspiel, and a solo clarinet harmony. After listening to it again this morning I want to make the strings sections much more subtle, with some dynamics automation, and I want to give the woodwinds a more distinct role.
(02-01-2019, 04:42 PM)Chris Spyratos Wrote: [ -> ]Until then maybe you could experiment with some panning?
The instruments already have panning and stereo width for stage presence, but I think to some extent the stereo reverb bounces the sound around so much that it all kind of blends together in the middle. I'll see what I can do about this.
I'm really liking it. There are more dynamics now and even without crossfades it sounds more expressive. You might even get away with cranking the reverb even more, but it certainly sounds more spacious, now.
Your idea about the strings and woodwinds will be interesting to hear. I think some dynamic automation on the strings will sound really nice.
I definitely hear some stereo separation; not sure if I'm hearing too much being clustered in the center myself. Maybe Chris can elaborate?
(02-02-2019, 01:47 AM)Nayrb Wrote: [ -> ]You might even get away with cranking the reverb even more
So... maybe I'm missing something, but it seems like sometimes when I ask for feedback, I get somebody saying "AARGH! TOO MUCH REVERB!" and other times I have people encouraging me to turn up the reverb. Is it just a matter of personal preference, or am I experiencing a sort of pendulum swing of taking people's advice to the extreme?
Edit: another possibility is that "to much reverb" means turn down the decibel level of the reverb, and "you could get away with more reverb" might mean increase the room size and/or decay time.