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While using before the built reverbs of my samplers i decided that was not enough any more, since i use different samplers like Kontakt and Sampletank3 so the reverbs are also different. Trying to get a more realistic sound i decided that I should use one Reverb for most of the Samples as it is recommended.
I tried my hands on a couple of freebies and also Valhalla Room and Valhalla Vintage Verb.

I recognized that the Valhalla ones are really just way better then anything free, though I couldn't get anything really that useful out of them. So I am hesitating which one I should buy for now, since I can't really judge there quality with my reverb tinkering skill, apart from some very generell judgements.

I fancy the hall sounds from Jeremy Soule Oblivion Ost and Guild Wars Ost. I also like the hall on this recording here.

I know the Room is more meant for realistic Halls, I can't really judge if what I want sounds that realistic though (apart from the Arvo Pärt recording).

Any recommendations?
I got Valhalla Room based on Mattias' recommendation several years ago and have never regretted it. I find it to be incredibly flexible. You can go from Super restrained to crazy space ghost sounds by just changing a parameter or two.  

I think Mattias uses vintage verb but I don't know in what context...

  -- Kurt
If you're mainly looking for that Soule-style Lexicon vibe, ValhallaVintageVerb is the way to go. It's basically a recreation of various Lexi algos. ValhallaRoom on the other hand has more variation; it has many different algos ranging from murky "vintage digital" stuff to realistic rooms and chambers. I have both and love them equally, though I use them for different stuff.
I can only speak for Room as I don't have Vintage yet.

Did you read Room's documentation?
I found it very useful.

Room can be tweaked to sound very similar to a convolution reverb hall using the "Large Room" and "Large Chamber" algorithms.
There are others, like "Bright  Room", "Dark Room" that sound very digital.
It's almost like a different reverb based on the algorithm you use, and each algorithm is quite mutable.

You are going to have to spend quite some time using it to really see how versatile it can be.

Whatever you decide I suspect you will end purchasing the other plugin in the future.
I was sold on Vintage after getting my hands dirty with Room. Rolleyes
Thanks to all of you the quick replies! Okay generelly judging from what everyone is saying and the recordings all of you put up I probably can't wrong with any of the both.

(04-07-2017, 03:43 PM)Mattias Westlund Wrote: [ -> ]If you're mainly looking for that Soule-style Lexicon vibe, ValhallaVintageVerb is the way to go.

Yeah thats what I want right now, I might get interrested in more dryer sounds later one. But I mean there not superexpensive, so I can always look into Room later.
Thanks for the tip with the Lexicon, i didn't know that Jeremy Soule was using that type of reverb. I thought it was just an 80s thing.

(04-07-2017, 04:58 PM)sinaptica Wrote: [ -> ]I can only speak for Room as I don't have Vintage yet.

Did you read Room's documentation?
I found it very useful.

No, I haven't done that yet! Thank you, I will check it out.
It depends completely on what you're doing. Honestly with some tweaking, just about any reverb can do the trick. I was pleasantly impressed by the Alesis Midiverb II unit I picked up the other week, for example.

If you're not very experienced with reverb or don't want to spend a lot of time tweaking, I might recommend exploring some of the convolution options out there, as they're all almost plug-n-play in the sense that all you have to do is load it up and tweak the wet/dry. Algo reverbs I tend to want to tweak a lot.
I use Valhalla Room myself, and as something of a n00b when it comes to reverb I've found it, coupled with the aforementioned documentation, to be effective and educational. But if Vintage is the one you like, then go for it. You're on a good forum for asking questions about reverb, so either way you'll be happy.
(04-08-2017, 01:09 AM)Samulis Wrote: [ -> ]I was pleasantly impressed by the Alesis Midiverb II unit I picked up the other week, for example.
Where do you pick up these ancient artifacts? I'll look into some convolution stuff, while they seem to get more expensive.

(04-08-2017, 01:28 AM)Nayrb Wrote: [ -> ]But if Vintage is the one you like, then go for it. You're on a good forum for asking questions about reverb, so either way you'll be happy.
These are good points. I think I'll make heavy use of that, after having something uploadable finished.
Thanks again to everyone for their tips, for now I settled with the Vintage Verb. I'll let you know of my experiences and thanks again!
(04-07-2017, 05:47 PM)Viktor Wrote: [ -> ]Thanks for the tip with the Lexicon, i didn't know that Jeremy Soule was using that type of reverb. I thought it was just an 80s thing.

I seem to remember him mentioning in an interview that he used an M300, though this was probably like a decade ago and I'm sure he uses different stuff now. Still, you mentioned GW and Oblivion and I guess it's possible he used it on those.